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Subject:Welcome to Ohio, Comrade. Show me your papers.
Time:02:13 pm
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Damn you, Ohio. Damn you, Govorner Taft. Damn you, Ohio state congressmen. Damn you, Ohio citizens who allowed this to happen.

Per the new "Ohio Patriot Act" police officers may now demand legal identification of any person within the state with or without cause or suspicion. If the individual refuses or cannot produce such identification, they are placed under arrest.

To call this "facist" is not hyperbole. People who shrug and ask what the big deal is will one day wake up in a country where they are guilty until proven innocent. Police states don't spring up overnight, it's little steps like this over time.

I can only hope this is overturned by the Supreme Court.
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[info]mazerrakhm
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Time:2006-03-01 08:58 pm (UTC)
That's some big time Big Brother, secret police stuff there man. This will deffinitely goto the Supreme Court, I see the ACLU is already saying it goes against the 1st and 4th ammendments.

What I really don't understand about it though is; What exactly is in Ohio that thay need this type of "Antiterrorism Legislation"?

What terrorist has a vendetta against Columbus or Cleveland? Don't tell me they hate Cincinatti, the birth place of WKRP? Personally, I'd let them bomb parts of Toledo, I spent a week there, it was a hole! C'mon, how many terrorists have even heard of Ohio?

Is all this to protect Cedar Point? It's a nice amusement park, but not this nice!


I've decided that "they" (Or the Man) chose this as a test bed to see if they could get away with it. I've been to Ohio, and there is nothing out there.
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[info]mycroftholmes
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Time:2006-03-02 05:05 am (UTC)
The greater cynic in me worries that your last point may well be true. The lesser cynic says that power-obsessed people tend to be drawn to politics, and will naturally use any excuse to gain more power, regardless of what form it may take and indifferent as to the excuse to take it.
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[info]mazerrakhm
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Time:2006-03-02 04:34 pm (UTC)
It may have been prefaced with sarcasm, but I think the second statement is true. If you want to make a viable go of this in this country you have to test it somewhere, and Ohio is a nice and quiet spot. You can tell it's quiet because this doesn't get a lot of national press, which you think it would.
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[info]pestilencefire
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Time:2006-03-01 11:06 pm (UTC)
Raise your hands all those who did not see this coming...so I can smack you in back of the head!

Power to you ...fight the man!

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[info]mycroftholmes
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Time:2006-03-02 05:07 am (UTC)
It's not that I didn't see things moving in this direction with all the post 9-11 stuff, and the outrageous civil liberties abuses that have resulted from the drug war.

...but this is stil a rock between the eyes.
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[info]mazerrakhm
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Time:2006-03-02 04:38 pm (UTC)
Just wait patiently while we tatoo your bar code, and insert your ID chip please.
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[info]diamondbarrow
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Time:2006-03-02 04:09 am (UTC)
Call me stupid, but something in me still holds faith that when something becomes obviously facist (it has to be obvious, because most people are oblivious or in denial), the people will alomst all resist.

Idealistic, perhaps, but that's one of the things i need to let me sleep at night...
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[info]mazerrakhm
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Time:2006-03-02 04:32 pm (UTC)
Well, obviously not in Ohio...
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[info]traceyonswg
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Time:2006-03-02 06:52 pm (UTC)
Yeah, or the rest of the US it seems. You all know the National ID bill passed in Congress right? Each state has been given a deadline before it must issue everyone a uniform ID that has all the same info as every other state. I can't remember the date, but it was only a couple years.

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[info]mazerrakhm
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Time:2006-03-02 07:24 pm (UTC)
I don't mind so much a national ID instead of every state having an ID. Everyone had one anyway, so it's about time that the were all the same. This leads to less fake state ID's which are used for underaged drinking, bank fraud, and the like.
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[info]mycroftholmes
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Time:2006-03-02 09:21 pm (UTC)
Agreed. I don't so much mind a uniform ID. However, there were congressmen who were trying to include a clause in that bill that would do for the entire country what Ohio just did. Fortunately, that clause got the axe in committee.
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[info]mazerrakhm
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Time:2006-03-02 09:23 pm (UTC)
Just another reason why we need to get rid of this "ryder" bs when passing bills. If a bill can not pass on it's OWN merrit, it has no business clogging up the system.
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